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On Wednesday, John McCain reiterated a meme he spread on the campaign trail:
Look, look, there is no doubt in my mind America's a right-of-center nation and this administration is governing from the left. [link]
I've been trying to wrap my mind around that, mathematically. It sounds to me like he's saying that the average American is to the right of the average American (which could get very awkward when trying to plan seating at dinner parties). The other option is the idea that there are fixed endpoints to the political spectrum, a Left point and a Right point, defining an axis that we can use to fix the mood of the electorate, which is equally ridiculous.

Politically useful, though.

Date: 2010-03-06 07:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] jere7my.livejournal.com
I made that point in my original post: "The other option is the idea that there are fixed endpoints to the political spectrum, a Left point and a Right point, defining an axis that we can use to fix the mood of the electorate, which is equally ridiculous." Something that is false and ridiculous but "understandable on a gut level" is still false and ridiculous.

Date: 2010-03-06 11:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ccommack
Is it less ridiculous if we take "right of center" to mean "conservative" (and "left of center" to mean "liberal")? Because that's what's actually being said; McCain wants to perpetuate the idea that the majority of America is conservative, while at the same time being inclusive of those who are currently shying away from the conservative label. The narrative being that, the Republicans, having been identified as far-right instead of the center-right they would like to be known as, have lost two consecutive elections because the Democrats fashioned themselves into the only party of the center. In order to come back, the Republicans must be seen as a more acceptable alternative to the center *AND* portray the Democrats as being far-left; they must do both, at the same time, or else it won't work. Hence, the term "right-of-center", associating the Republicans with the word "center", but when contrasting to the Democratic Administration, only using the word "left" and denying the positive association.

Frank Luntz has built an entire career out of this kind of almost-subliminal wordplay, and he's approximately the last live person who just about every Republican listens to.

Date: 2010-03-07 12:11 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] jere7my.livejournal.com
Again, this rests on the assumption that there are fixed posts marked "Conservative" and "Liberal", which McCain can use to define an axis on which to plot the political leanings of Americans. As I stated in the original post, this kind of thing is effective, but it continues to be ridiculous, because those posts move as the mood of the country shifts, and no two people agree on where they are anyway.

I feel like most of the comments here are reiterating the same point, which is a point I made in the original post: it makes political sense to use that phrasing, but it has no basis in reality, and as soon as you start poking at it that becomes apparent. Hence ridiculous.

Date: 2010-03-07 06:37 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ccommack
But "Conservative" and "Liberal" are *not* relative descriptions! They have concrete definitions as policy programs, and have not moved perceptibly for at least 20 years, if not longer. "[The] assumption that there are fixed posts marked 'Conservative' and 'Liberal'" is entirely valid for this purpose, even though it wouldn't work if we took the actual terms "right of center" and "left [of center]" at face value! Isn't speaking in code fun?

Dismissing this rhetoric as ridiculous is dangerous. Anyone to whom it makes sense, even if they haven't yet thought critically about it, will see your dismissal as foolish or arrogant and will harden their position against you in reaction. The meme can *only* be effectively fought on its own terms, by arguing that liberal policies are more popular than conservative policies, and that this is consistently borne out in polling. You can't win a political argument by trying to prescriptivize the English language out from under your opponent.

Date: 2010-03-07 07:27 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] jere7my.livejournal.com
I'm not going to stop ridiculing John McCain when he's being ridiculous. I don't think a lot of Teabaggers are going to read my LiveJournal, and those who do are welcome to bite my shiny metal teabag.

To put it another way: I'm not trying to win an political argument with conservatives. I'm trying to make fun of conservatives.

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